This was linked off /. today, but I thought it was worth a read: http://www.mcs.vuw.ac.nz/comp/Publications/CS-TR-02-9.abs.html Central Thesis: Computer Science ought to be rooted in programming. My capsule review: The authors ought to lay off the empathogens. Some of their points are sound, but I can do without the tree-hugging hippy crap. ;) Ben