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I saw this on Saturday Kitchen this week, cooked by a man with fantastic facial hair: http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/porkshouldersteaksan_79741.shtml I'm still scared of beetroot (slowly working my way towards trying to eat it again after a nibble at a restaurant a little while back was similar in taste in texture to eating a muddy twig) so I didn't do the "Beetroot Pilau" that he suggested with it. Anyway, I know little/nothing about cuts of meat (although I am reading the Meat book and other things atm) and ended up using spare rib chops, which my friendly neighbourhood butcher claimed would be similar to shoulder steaks...but with a bone. It was very nice indeed - I'm crap at sauces normally and thickening up the juices of this one has inspired me to practise more. And also cook with cider. billy -- I'm not an optimist. I'm merely a cynical pessimist... Billy Abbott billy at cowfish dot org dot uk
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